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Another thing, the harressment my daughter received was do to a boy liking my daughter. These girls need to receive some sort of help mentally. I can't imagine 17 and 18 year old threatening to kill someone because a certain boy likes them. Maybe if the parents would have busted some tails this might not happen, however I see some seriously troubled youth in the Sullivan County School systems. Is is too much for the parents to control their children?? Are they being given to much by our government that they are so lazy as to not see what is going on. Whatever the cause, somone will be hurt eventually. A person can only take so much. I advised my daughter if anyone there lays a hand on her to mop the floor with them. I dont condone violence or fighting but nothing else is being done.
s
blountville, tn USA - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:48:46 (PDT)
The situation at Sullivan Central just goes on and on. Myself and my daughter are so glad school is over now and the harressing girls have graduated to go out in the working world. Im sure when they start harressing co workers or customers then hopefully they will be punished. As far as I know the parents were never informed by the school what was actually going on. It is up to me to contact the parents, then I'll probably be charged with harressent. The laws protect the law breakers.
s
blountville, tn USA - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:42:39 (PDT)
Everyone always told me "get an education, and you get ahead in life." Well, I went to get my Bachelor's Degree. Two years after, I only had a $6.50 job. So, I went back to school, got a Master's Degree. Two years later, I have no job, and a huge bill for my education.
R. E.
USA - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 14:54:42 (PDT)
At the beginning of the school year a hand book is given to the student and parents. It explains the policies and procedures for being assaulted, harrased and sexually harrassed. I have called Sullivan Central four times this year for harrassement of my daughter by several girls, my daughters' friends have also reported it. As according the the "hand book" the offenders will be go to "alternative school" and possible expelled. NOTHING has happened except some stern words like "Leave so and so alone". Well this really scared em good. Now it's 10 times worse. I was never told in the phone conversations I had that I needed to put anything in writing. Well, it is sad that school is a place of torment in Sullivan County!!! No wonder the young educated people leave.

Webmaster response: I get wary of these kinds of schools that end up as a dumping ground for unwanted kids. Teachers must control the classroom and problem students must be dealt with. But with the intolerant social climate here I fear children will be singled out more on social class, grades, etc. then behavior. Schools are trying to boost average standings in grades so why not single out those with bad grades for whatever reason and remove them? These kids harassing your daughter likely have some kind of social connections and they just won't deal with them. It's time to bring back the paddle and hold parents directly responsable for the actions of their kids. There is no easy solution to this.
S
Blountville, TN USA - Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 13:00:06 (PDT)


Thanks for letting me sign your guest-book. I hope you are well and doing alright in these last days, if not and hurting, suffering, going through some troublesome times then don't hesitate to visit our site and read the wealth of info available. May God richly bless you, love Brother Lee.
Brother Lee
UK - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 10:43:50 (PDT)
I like your web site, it's great. Nostradamus � Time Travel and Prophecies. Looks at the possibility that the work of Nostradamus is the result of a future time travel experiment. http://nostradamus.time-loops.net
OhGoOn <webmaster@time-loops.net>
Madrid, Spain - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 03:23:52 (PDT)
Well, Sullivan county, has everyone heard about the sick incident at Sullivan North again? It all began when a group of students gathered around a desk in the back of a classroom and began to cause great commotion. The teacher never even looked up o see what was going on. What was happening was that a female student was giving a male student a blow job, and he ejaculated. He wiped the mess onto the face of an innocent female student. I know this because my daughter was in the same class that this took place in. The poor innocent girl immediately began to cry and called her parents from the office. The parents were furious, (I don't blame them.) and they already have a lawsuit against the school. Sad. Then, have you heard that Arwood is now superintendent? And, w/o anyone's approval or knowledge? What's wrong with this county and the schools?
Debbie Tate
Kingsport, Tennessee USA - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 22:22:00 (PDT)
Welcome to Saint-Petersburg - the Northern capital of Russia, its historical, architectural and cultural centre! It is one of the most beautiful cities in the world
Piter <piter_13_gbon@hotmail.com>
New York , NY united states - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 10:06:10 (PDT)
Jews are the reason behind the all problems that happen in the world. Isn't Christianity the salvation? Amanda

Webmaster response: That is an irrational statement. What do Jews have to do with Christian salvation? TV preachers do massive damage to the Christian faith and they aren't Jews. (Or are they secret Jews out to get Jesus??) We could have 1000 people hauled into court on the same charge and the one Jewish souding name in the crowd would have the whole crowd accused of being Jews. What is the insane obsession with Jews? They're just an easy scape goat for those too stupid to deal with reality. There are no Jews to speak of in my community but a lot of rich Christians that inflict hardhip on everyone else. (Those that use Christianity to cover a political/social agenda.) I'm not wasting my time on conspiracy theories or looking for secret societies behind every misfortune in life. Do what you can to help whatever way you can the most people. Most of those that target Jews, Freemasons, resort to conspiracy theories, etc. are just nuts.

USA - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 16:25:05 (PDT)


Hi, nice guestbook.
Sam <sam.cullen@chev59.sytes.net>
Sydney, Aus - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 05:31:12 (PDT)
Thank you for reading "To kill an American" . I have printed it off and will keep a copy of it on my refrigerator to block out the foolishness and pettyness that is coming out the hearings.
Carol Adiletto <cadiletto@msn.com>
Franklin, MA USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 18:16:47 (PDT)
I don't really care what people say about the jewish people. Christians can hate as many jews they want for all I care, but that doesn't make me hate christians less. Yes, i'm saying that I hate christians, but with good reasons. for some it would seem like good reasons, for others *points at the christians* that are thought not to accept certain things!!! <.< -would not understand it.. some people are just plain stupid! dumb! and what did i ever do you them? nothing! i've left them alone until now! Why couldn't he just leave me alone!? i was just trying to make a place where people with the same inrerests could "meet" and talk in peace without being disrupted by morons who didn't even know what the fuck we were talking about! And the some fuck-head christian asshole enters my forum and posts like 20 times some stupid messed-up message. AND REPORTS ME TO THE FUCKING HOST WHERE I HAD THE FORUM! And why i'm writing it here!? because no one in here cares what i think anyway :p -you don't know me and I don't know you. and one last comment to the christian people, thanks a lot for ruining my best friends life. you had to come along and cut off parts of the childrens body. how fucked up are you!? what the hell is the point with curcumcision!? remove "horniness"? make sex feel like masturbation with a sandpaperglove or just because you're playin evil!? -Fuck you all and hope you'll burn in hell! t_t

Webmaster response: You do have serious emotional issues.
Kanjinid <Kamji135@msn.com>
NY, NY USA - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 08:07:09 (PDT)


Great Site you have. I will certainly be back. If you are intrested in exchanging links feel free to contact me. Keep on the good work, the fight against terrorism will be long...
Shimshon <shimshon_9@hotmail.com>
Jerusalem, Israel - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 03:34:53 (PDT)
GREAT SITE I LUV IT
MIKE ANDERSON <OHYESYESYES1@JUNO.COM>
TRENTON, NJ USA - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 16:56:45 (PDT)
Hallo mein Name ist Detlef! Da unserer neue Internetseite noch nicht so beaknnt ist, w�rde ich mich bedaken, wenn Sie einen Banner von uns auf ihre Seite stellen k�nnten. Als Gegenzug w�rden wir nat�rlich auch einen Banner von ihenn auf unsere Seite stellen! M.f.G Detlef
detlef <webmaster@turboimation.de>
K�ln, Niedersachsen Deutschland - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 04:44:55 (PDT)
Great website! And for those who like to read, Ward Kendall's sci-fi action thriller, "Hold Back This Day", is now back in print. The first such novel in the world to deal with the theme of white racial extinction, "Hold Back This Day" stands as a landmark of white racialist fiction. Not since Jean Raspail's "The Camp of the Saints" has a novel - or novelist - been bold enough to touch the forbidden subject of Race in a manner that is not anti-white. Yet, unlike Raspail's pessimistic novel, "Hold Back This Day" offers the reader an uplifting story of human endurance, courage, and triump - set amid a world of totalitarian hate unlike any you have ever read. And read here what others in the pro-white movement have said about "Hold Back This Day": http://www.heartlandusa.org/publishingnews.htm
Karl Ramstrom <holdbackthisday@hotmail.com>
USA - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 11:25:17 (PDT)
What a neat page! I'll be sure to visit again.
Sarah <anamericanaries@myway.com>
USA - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 01:08:38 (PDT)
As a first time visitor to your site I was thrilled at the wealth of information contained here. My only regret is that I don't have enough time to explore everything your site makes available ! My own website is http://www.michelcampillo.com/mangeur-de-cigogne.php Regards !
mangeur de cigogne
France - Friday, May 07, 2004 at 23:15:51 (PDT)
My website at www.mormon.citymax.com reveals corruption with the masonic influence in religions, governments, judicial, etc. This info comes from a NDE and ancient scriptures such as the Nog Hammadi, ect. Major prophetic corruption in the Mormon church. The KuKluxKlan has masonic/satanic influence - This sounds like what has been mentioned in Bristol, etc. Brigham Young, Heber C Kimball were both 33rd degree masons who infiltrated the mormon church (influencing Joseph Smith). Albert Pyke, British spy, head mason and behind the scene, founder of the KuKluxKlan directed this infiltration. There is no church in Heaven only the Truth that Jesus is God.

Webmaster response: This site is a typical example of the kind of irrational nonsense that has infiltrated the Christian religion. Typical is the level of conspiracy theories and end-time nonsense. The Masons in fact are harmless and have never had anything to to do with what this website claims. Note the page also has coding problems, etc. I'll leave it as an example of what this website opposes. I do thank you Karen for visiting.
Karen Davis <truerae2002@hotmail.com>
Columbia, MO USA - Friday, May 07, 2004 at 13:07:07 (PDT)


Just wanted to say hi
Ms Loki Schadenfreude <loki_schadenfreude@yahoo.co.uk>
Switzerland - Friday, May 07, 2004 at 12:13:56 (PDT)
No doubt fellows, no doubt
Eric Fisher <blindlemonpete@yahoo.com>
Washington, DC USA - Friday, May 07, 2004 at 07:56:19 (PDT)
Just stopped by to say Hi.
Lawrence Bishop <ve3lab@msn.com>
North Bay, Canada - Friday, May 07, 2004 at 06:57:04 (PDT)
I think this college is a sad place for a young adult to attend school. Most likely, the student coming here will have been home-schooled and has been sheltered his entire life, never having the opportunity to have a social life or to make mistakes. Students here cannot even experience the new world around them as they are given a curfew (like they are children) and are absolutely forbidden to have "impure" sexual (an completely natural) thaoughts about the opposite sex, and even mere kissing is viewed as a disgusting display of affection and students can be expelled from this school if they are caught kissing another student in public. Sure, all colleges have rules and regulations, but let's get real...you can only cover their eyes and hold their hands for so long; you must permit these young adults to live life. Let them make choices. Let them make mistakes. Otherwise, how disturbing it will be when the cage is unlocked and they are set free into the real world where they will have quite a rude awakening. BJU is definitely a place that my children will never attend as I encourage them to be cultured and to live a happy life, still with Jesus in their hearts; they know right from wrong and to learn from the Bible, but they are not enclosed in a bubble from birth to the end of their college years. My husband attended 2 years at BJU, and I must say I'm glad he was expelled for kissing a girl on campus because when he came home, he met me 2 months later and we have been together ever since. Oh, and he agrees that this school sucks!

Webmaster response: Thanks very much Dawn. BJU is another example of the sickness that has infiltrated the Christian faith.
Dawn
Kalamazoo, MI USA - Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 13:44:45 (PDT)


I move to Bristol in 1991 . I grew up in a small town in the coal fields of Southwest Virginia and by comeing to Bristol I hoped I could provide a better liveing for my family , but what I found was something totally diffrent. What I found were low wage jobs in the factories , and if you did stick it out to the point where you could make a halfway decent liveing you usually found yourself layed off in 3 to 4 years and as you walked out the plant you could pass the temp service workers that were brought in to replace you "So much for appreciation for loyal service" . I have two kids that will be out of high school in a few years and I told them both the best thing they could do if they want any kind of future at all is to leave the Tri-Cities area and never look back . The funny thing is I've noticed the things you've wrote about for years but I didn't know if anybody else did . All I can say is keep up the good work .

Webmaster response: Thanks for your input. You stand as a witness to the climate of worker abuse in Bristol. Best of luck and may God bless you and your family. I know just where you are coming from. Been there, done that.
E.M.N
Bristol, Tn. USA - Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 04:18:47 (PDT)


I respect what you have written, but at the same time I don't totally agree with the points you made of why arabs "hate" America, to what I know arabs don't hate the American people but hate the government and the Bush administration... and I sure most americans would agree that they aren't fond of them...
Saud Hareb <swat_701@hotmail.com>
Dubai, UAE - Tuesday, May 04, 2004 at 09:45:43 (PDT)
I am starting to see something real strange going on in Bristol. A few years ago Susan Oliver "committed suicide" in the house she shared with her boyfriend "James". Today I learned she was trying to leave him because she told family that she feared for her life. She rented a storage unit and was moving her stuff out. The day before she was to have a truck show up to get everything else she "committed suicide". Well "James" had a previous girlfriend that "committed Suicide" in that very same house before they met. As the details have been coming I found that "James" is high up in the KKK and some of the Bristol police are in as well. The facts were brushed away and Susan's death was ruled as a suicide. Now I have just learned that 2 other deaths have occurred in that same house sense then. I am seeing a trail of Clan activity that includes a local judge as well. The trail leads all the way to Knoxville and as more detail become known I will post them.
aint happening here
USA - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 18:29:03 (PDT)
Hi I am so glad to read your guest book, It is realy intersting when you know someone to have fun with, trusty. I was livinning at United states, I would like to have friends to improve my english language. If you wanna you ma call me please. Do not hesitate to call me after 09 pm Suadi time, RIyad at : 4254711 My tel.
khalid <koorah@gawab.com>
Riyadh, K.S.A - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 16:43:15 (PDT)
You make some great points here! I agree wholeheartedly.
RRP
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, April 29, 2004 at 09:20:02 (PDT)
Lewis, I enjoy reading here from time to time. Though I don't always agree, I appreciate your perspective. I remember at least one time you addressed the Sullivan County Commission when I was a member. You were polite and interesting. Reading about the schools here, there is one thing I do not remember. And that is any effort by the school board for a joint meeting in the eight years I was there. We'd get notices about their meetings, and I am sure they got notices of ours. However, Dr. Odell was the one we saw in person. A lot of us on the commission raised many concerns about their unwillingness to face real budget issues like declining enrollment, nearly-empty buildings, over-staffing, money-losing food services, etc. Some of their problems we definitely caused by state mandates, I'll give them that. But, many other systems in the state faced some of the same hardships but handled them better. We kept giving them more and more of the taxpayers' money for less and less students. Dr. Odell is a really nice and dedicated man, but I think he just couldn't bring himself to recommend the necessary support staff cuts, reining in of benefit costs, school closures and consolidations that Sullivan County Schools need.

Webmaster response: Thanks very much for your input on this issue Mr. Boyd. If those elected to office would just talk to the public as human beings, there wouldn't be so many misunderstandings. You are welcome here at any time. I am making an effort to moderate some of my strong opinions in the hope we can all work together for the common good of Bristol.
Bryan Boyd
Bristol, TN USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 10:21:43 (PDT)


Hi!!
Rad
USA - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 10:03:27 (PDT)
hi there, a lot of true facts here, about islamic fascists, who also seem to spread all over germany like a plague! concerning your apartheid articles: did you ever think about socialism? the only way to distribute goods in a just way? and it is not far from genuine christianity, like it was in the first 3 centuries of its existance! have a nice day, rod kkk sucks!
rod <rodredowski@yahoo.com>
Germany - Tuesday, April 27, 2004 at 08:06:29 (PDT)
No compromise should be done on terrorism.
Shimshon <shimshon_9@hotmail.com>
Jerusalem, Israel - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 04:47:48 (PDT)
Just so those who read this know, you are being LIED to. By the media, by those prejudiced, by ignorance, and by people who have motives because they are bothered by something in Islam that, most likely they wish they could do, but know deep down inside that they could never do. Such as have passion and zeal, keep up their prayers, and lead a life that demands respect for others. As a result, Islam, mostly for selfish reasons of ridiculous individuals has come under attack. The first lie: That Islam breeds nothing but terrorism. One by definition cannot be a Muslim and be a terrorist that kills innocent civilians without just cause. The Prophet Muhammad (swt) has forbidden the killing of women and children in any form of military expedition. The elderly, under Sharia (Islamic law) are not to be harmed either. But Sharon, the wonderful prime minister if Israel, ignored this in 1982 when he had his malitia of MURDERERS march into 2 Muslim cities and butchered well over 3,000 innocent civilians. The Media in European countries still calls this attack "For apparently unprovoked reasons." The majority killed in these attacks were women and children. And while the American government owned media shoves false ideas down your throat like Muslims are the most dangerous threat to Americans they forget that over 84% of all terrorist atacks against America come from Latin countries, another 12 percent from Ireland. Muslim/Arab countries make up only a small percentage of this whole scale, and only .01% of all Muslims WORLDWIDE even come close to participating in any form of violence. thats not even 1%, not even half of a single percent. But while American media and sick minded war mongers full of prejudice fill your minds with fear of the "dangerous Muslims" we all run around ignoring the atrocities that Israel exhorts ILLEGALLY on Palestine, except when a palestinian, who by law is not allowed to carry a gun, straps a bomb on himself in an act of DESPERATION, well the media jumps all over that doesn't it? And as far as women being mistreated in Islam, tell that to the 3 out of every 4 converts to Islam who just so happen to all be women. Women seemed very pleased with Islam for it to be something that hates them so much. Even the former NUN Karen Armstrong admits "Its absurd to think the Prophet Muhammad would be a feminist in the 21st century ense in 6th century Arabia, but nevertheless, what He did FOR WOMEN was AMAZING." So take your lies, your misinformation, and save them for someone you might actually fool, because their are people like me who won't buy it. People who are your worst nightmares. Educated Muslims who accepted ISlam of their own accord and are not afraid to sift through this garbage to find the truth.

Webmaster response: Click here to read the truth on religious fascism.
Muslim <JP_Dunlap@msn.com>
Murfreesboro, TN USA - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 18:41:20 (PDT)


Thanks for the links. I'm pretty sure I have a copy of the Michael Barkun book somewhere and will read it once it turns up !
C.S. Barrios
USA - Saturday, April 24, 2004 at 05:12:50 (PDT)
I thought you dems believed military service wasnt an issue. Ohh thats right it only applied to clintoon.
steve
reno, nv USA - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 19:03:22 (PDT)
Brilliant !! Finally someone who dares to tell the truth about the masquerade called war on terror. There is no war on terror at all before Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan are deleted from map. Calling them allies in a war on terror is about as sick and pervert as calling Hitler an ally in the fight against nazism.
Viking
Norway - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 16:39:31 (PDT)
Wonderfull sight. I just stumbled upon it. Added to my list of favorites and passing it on.
Wayne Spencer <wayne@spencers.net>
Locust Grove, VA USA - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 07:49:22 (PDT)
You are right Kristin drugs are becoming an epidemic in all our schools. Here in Wisconsin the more money a kid has the harder the drug..kids from good families, football players, cheerleaders and band members alike. We as a nation had better wake up!
katrina kruck <katsdamom401@hotmail.com>
wauwatosa, wi. USA - Thursday, April 22, 2004 at 19:33:28 (PDT)
I love your site! good job.
john
austria - Thursday, April 22, 2004 at 17:00:24 (PDT)
http://www.khazaria.com/ um, are you biased against Khazars or something? i mean, are they supposed to be ashamed of who they are (as the Appalachian Melungeons were for so many years)? i hope not. the embrace of the Khazar hypothesis by Identity Christians ("British Israelites," ad nauseam) is unfortunate, but it's a rather knee jerk reaction to insist on the opposite of whatever a White Supremacist happens to say.

Webmaster response: I have corresponded with Kevin Brooks the webmaster of khazaria.com and like both him and his material. I'm on his mailing list. We are are of similar religious backgrounds as well. Like it or not, I don't see any real proof most Eastern European Jews are descended from the Turkish Khazars. These Jews are a mixture of Jewish refugees from Western Europe, (originated in the Roman Empire and Middle East) Khazar converts, more Jewish refugees directly fleeing Islam, etc. Most Khazars today are Muslim. These Identity freaks are just racists that use this issue to dig at Jews. You don't like my conclusion, you are welcome to prove otherwise. Thanks for the comment. See the following on this issue:


C.S. Barrios
USA - Thursday, April 22, 2004 at 05:49:30 (PDT)
Just wanted to drop you a note to say that I enjoyed browsing around your website. I'm a college instructor, and I stumbled across your homepage while tracking down a case of plagiarism by one of my students... she apparently found your page very useful in writing an essay for a comparative religion class, if you know what I mean. I won't say that I'm in complete agreement with everything I found on your pages, but you have given me a lot to think about. Keep up the good work!
John <johnpitt@setel.com>
Whitesburg, KY USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 14:06:29 (PDT)
I was told once buy a very wise person not to discuss sex, politics, or religion in public. so much for the rules! I have a big problem with what is going on in both the city and county Gov. What kind of example are we setting for the young in our comunnity? I think it's time that we got off our butts and make this place economically sound. I want my kids to have a good future, and not have to worry about the unprofessional behavior that we are seeing. Am I the only person who, to themselves questioned the direction that Tony Massey was going? He was a loaded gun, and a power bully, hopefully we can get someone in who will care more about our city and less about being THE BOSS. Shumaker is a good man that cares more deeply than people realize. Just give him a chance guys, let's get this recall crap out of your systems and get back to business. our governments need to show a united front, with a calm voice of leadership.
Sherry <SASMITH@BVUNET.NET>
Bristol, TN USA - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 10:58:23 (PDT)
A new book about great Parsee singer Freddie Mercury http://allofqueen.on.ufanet.ru
Mariam <MariamAhundova311@hotmail.com>
Moscow, Moscow Russia - Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 09:25:16 (PDT)
I heard that Mr. Odell will be retireing as The "head" of the school board. I also heard that a shoe in for that position will be Mr. Ward from Central. Are we jumping form the pan right back into the fire? Anyone remember the accounting mishaps at Sullivan Central. This will probably really stink. Love to hear back from people who know the truth.

Webmaster response: Hi S. O'Dell is retiring and getting Ward would no surprise. Afterall, snakes love other snakes. Did you know the Sullivan County school population has plunged from 23,000 when he came to 12,000 today? Sullivan County claims it can't afford to hire teachers but people like him make about $100,000 a year plus extras while the average worker here makes between $6 and $8 an hour? The entire Sullivan County government (along with Washington County, VA) are all one big accounting mishap and we are paying for it.
S
Blountville, TN USA - Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 13:15:14 (PDT)


Just finished reading your "Jesus History or Myth" article. This is one of the most comprehensive yet readable articles I've seen on the subject, complete with a bibliography for further research. I applaud your work and look forward to investigating the rest of your website. Congratulations on your efforts.
D. Rose <JHunterccw@aol.com>
Colonial Heights, Va USA - Tuesday, April 13, 2004 at 12:32:36 (PDT)
A very interesting site indeed. One thing that I would like to say is that in all the *Holy Books* (Torah, Bible, Koran) not one single word was actually written by the people to whom they are attributed to. I do wonder why people trust, put so much emphasis on and base their whole lives upon documents that have been *doctored* and modified from the unknown originals. Zahid.

Webmaster response: Many of the articles here already state that. For example, other then Paul's Epistles (written before the rest of the Gospels, some are diputed) we don't know who wrote most of the New Testament. Even the church fathers were unsure in many cases. The Koran is another example. Mohammid didn't write it, but it was assembled years after his death by unknown writers. At the same time, many Greek works attributed to certain writers also have unknown authors as well or are under dispute. Matthew, Mark and Luke only quote Paul correctly and all misquote the Old Testament the same incorrect way. It's likely they were Paul's followers and he does mention Luke and Mark directly. You point is well taken.
Zahid <zmumtaz@direcway.com>
OH USA - Tuesday, April 13, 2004 at 07:38:31 (PDT)


Personally I believe that your Web-page sucks. You are the most anti-Christian racist pigs on the inter-net. I am what you claim to be and that is a son of God through my fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...I am german, English and Scot-Irish. You on the other hand are what you claim to be...anti-christ!!

Webmaster response: I couldn't agree more with you. Here is proof on my visitor counter I installed in March 2002: That's not counting 6000+ page views per day and top rankings in many search engines. I have you and other visitors to thank for it. Some articles were contributed by visitors or they supplied information, inspiration, and help in many cases. For example, a visitor supplied information on Marcion who wrote the original New Testiment that the church later combined with other writings to cover up the true origins. Thanks for your input.
Rick <ricjonah@hal-pc.org>
Houston, Tx USA - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 12:38:39 (PDT)


I don't think that the "created old" argument is without merit. It makes as much sense for the earth to be created with a history as it does for Adam to be created with a history; a newborn baby would not be the appropriate first person. Furthermore, if God created us with genetic material, and created species that are able to adapt and evolve, it makes sense that the genetic code would reflect this. If that history was created in the blink of an eye instead of over billions of years, that's not the inconsistency. The inconsistency would by why God would mislead people with one version in text and another to be discovered through clear evidence.
Debbi M Hart
USA - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 19:26:38 (PDT)
get your facts right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your site is extremely misleading!!! ISLAM DOES NOT PROMOTE THE CIRCUMSISION OF GIRLS AND IT DOES NOT DEGRADE WOMEN!!!

Webmaster response: Get your facts right. Nobody said the Koran or Islam promotes most of the degrading treatment of women in the Muslim world. That's related more to local customs and culture which many Muslim countries have refused to abolish. The Koran also does not sanction the kind of murder and terrorism supported by many Muslims. So what?


aLIA <heavenly_blest@hotmail.com>
london, UK - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 03:35:21 (PDT)
Poor response Webmaster.Communist countries are irrelevant as we are talking about the present not the past.As for terrorism,however repugnant it was/is,I'm sure you'll find that statistically the death rate was higher in the States from gun-related incidents.As for freedom of expression,of course America on paper has one of the greatest legal frameworks for protecting it in the world.However there is an incredible amount of conformity in the States and I'm not just talking about your PC liberals.Nowhere in the free world are people so brainwashed with patriotism from an early age with the flag and anthem etc.Try to question some things like American foreign policy or the gun society outside some educated circles and the atmosphere can be very unpleasant.My brother(non-US citizen) was basically forced into buying a flag for his house in California after 9-11.Of course he had a "choice" but the social pressure on him to do so was enormous and it was clear that nobody would have respected his free choice not to buy one.More than any English speaking country I've been to do so many people seem to have the same opinion on things,combined with a breathtaking ignorance about the outside world. I actually like American people in general.Most of them are very friendly and positive.However to get on in the States it is necessary to practice a lot of self-censorship and be careful what you say.In this respect Britain and Canada seem to be much more open.
Peter Franks
USA - Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 19:53:04 (PDT)
I have to admit that the site is very interesting and useful. At the moment I'm writing an MA project on Chistian Fundamentalism in the USA and about its influence on the American home and foreign policy, at the American Studies Department in the Jagiellonian University in Cracow. I would be grateful if you could possibly give me some information about any good web sources with info concerning the subject. I'm having a bit difficulties with finding some more stuff about it in Cracow so I'm a little confused. Thank you, and good luck!
Przemek <przemorn@poczta.onet.pl>
Sanok, Poland - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 15:38:00 (PDT)
Europe and the Middle East are regions not countries.(Middle Eastern countries hardly come into the equation anyway.) What criteria do you use to make this statement anyway? What factors do you take into account-eg economic level,crime,health,media,education etc? <

Webmaster response: Not that any answer would satisfy you, the simple answer is freedom. I was all over Europe but mainly West Berlin. Even Western Europe, Canada, and Israel are very restrictive on things like free speech in some, separation of religion/state in others, etc. Criticism of Islam in many of these countries is a hate crime as many liberals try to enforce the same nonsense here. Turkey was among the poorest I was in but many (not all) are happy in some ways while some wealthy Germans are unhappy at everything just as some Americans are. Try going to Communist East Berlin (before the Wall came down) that I visited and feel what fear really is. A prison with no parole and just saying the wrong thing gets one put in solitary confinement. Walk along the Berlin Wall and see the crosses where people were gunned down for trying to leave the prison. They do shoot prisoners trying to escape. Even civilian police in Germany and Europe are armed with machine guns. Try having to watch out for PLO terrorists, Red Brigade terrorists, IRA terrorists, etc. that all worked together trying to kill anybody that got in their way. We have a little of this at abortion clinics and leftist radicals robbing banks or the Unibomber, but nothing on the scale Europe and the Middle East have until 911. Let's not forget the Islamist animals that just murdered 200 people in Madrid. What you are really asking is a loaded question and you already have your mind made up. Think the French and Spanish are looking over their shoulders?

Click to view a picture of my duty station in West Berlin

Even the 2 acres and old house I own can be gotten by almost anyone here. It would be so expensive in Europe I could never have bought it at ten times the price. We don't have socialized medicine like Europe, but we have organizations like Healing Hands, a Christian non-profit that supplies health care to uninsured people that hold a job and work. That's where I go and support when I can, but try to use them the least amount possible so their limited resources can help others more in need. We had a Methodist Church that offered to help those that couldn't afford it to fix up their old cars. We had a Lutheran Church helping unemployed people find work. Poor and need glasses? The Lions Club will help. Three children died in a trailer fire in a local community called Glade Springs. People out of nowhere came forward to help. Europe seemed so indifferent to these things. Nobody starves here. Get some government agency involved, just chaos. We have a lot of poverty and illiteracy in Appalachia, but we have very little crime compared to inner cities with the same problem. It's safe to walk the streets almost anywhere other then some government housing. But as I understand it from European friends, Muslims and third world immigrants have caused crime and other problems to explode.

We have our problems, but ask me if I would trade this place for Europe or give up what is good in exchange for getting rid of what problems we have, I'd say no way. Its apples verses oranges. No nation is a utopia and utopianism is an irrational belief system. That's my opinion, take it or leave it. So what is your problem? Just another unhappy utopian? Tell us why you think America is so bad and what is so great somewhere else. Why are you still here? Why are you an expert? I don't claim to be.
Peter Franks
USA - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 02:00:41 (PDT)


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Petersburg , Russian Federation - Thursday, April 08, 2004 at 21:14:40 (PDT)
As many Americans do,you say that America is the best place to live in the world.I would like to know how many other countries you have lived in and therefore how qualified you are to make this statement.

Webmaster response: Europe and the Middle East. That makes me very qualified.
Peter Franks
USA - Thursday, April 08, 2004 at 07:47:48 (PDT)


Hi my spiritual name is Annettah aka Netty. I really like the site. I wish to learn more about your organization. I am an inspiring clairvoyant medium and empath. I am learning and stil am. I have a web page and I am listed on ebay under Angel Card Readings. Light and Love Netty (Tee)

Webmaster response: While I'm glad you paid us a visit, this website promotes rational monotheism, rational Christianity, Deism, Christian Unitarianism, classical (not secular) humanism, and Judaism but rejects this kind of unhealthy superstition. I present a large section on Gnosticism because of the historical relation to Christianity. Please give what you are doing some serious thought and best wishes to you. You are welcome to post here.
Tee <natyourall@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, April 08, 2004 at 02:12:43 (PDT)


My father worked 24 years in those southwest Virginia coal mines before moving the family to Dayton,Oh and working in the toolmaking industry of the 1950s..I am a 1953 graduate of Appalachia H.S. & it is sad to see that still only a few are able to earn a decent wage..more depressing is the news of rampant illegal use of legal & illegal drugs practically decimating the younger generations..last visit there to relatives the county jail was reported to be about 35 to 40 inmates over capacity with more than a few allowed into the community with ankle monitors..AND it is also about that pervasive her in Dayton...with drive-by's..hold-up's..drug busts..robberies reported every TV News report...Is there no answer to man's inhumanity to man?
Mel Morelock <melmorelock@earthlink.net>
Dayton, Ohio USA - Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 15:45:33 (PDT)
Thanks for the opportunity! This is brilliant!
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Irvine, CA USA - Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 14:33:50 (PDT)
Hello, My name is Ethan and I am against prayer in school. I think this is bull crap becasue I am Jewish. I hate those stupid Christian people.E-mail me back some stuff about stupid british people! Love Ethan
Ethan Scott <ballerscott33@yahoo.com>
morgantown , in USA - Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 12:56:29 (PDT)
hallo from the sweden and greeting in the name of Jesus. Thanks for yor this site and be blessed .Soon this will be passower and we can remembers that the Jesus died on the cross for our the sin and sickness. pray with me for gospel. Blessing keijo sweden
keijo <keijoleppioja@hotmail.com>
sweden - Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 10:23:56 (PDT)
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- Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 06:53:06 (PDT)
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- Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 05:05:57 (PDT)
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- Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 02:41:13 (PDT)
i found this site offline looking for stuff on the gospel of john for a research paper in college.. im sorry BUT IF YOU ARE PREACHING THIS S*** TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY THEN YOU ARE F***ED UP.. is this some kind of cult??? AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE PEOPLE OF TENNESSEE ARENT GRADUATING FROM HS... CUZ YOU TEACH THEM S*** LIKE THIS I AM PROUD TO BE FROM NJ
anonymous
NJ USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 19:25:04 (PDT)
Nice site
Fromunda Chiese <fromundachiese@yahoo.com>
USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 17:13:33 (PDT)
Hi all, Hell and Heaven are stories that should be told to kids in order to make them go to sleep. My young cousin was simply giving the Bible a glance and suddenly he started laughing like anything. On being asked what was it; he showed me this. (Mark 5: 7 - 15) - it doesn't get funnier than this. | So I though why not put this to good use to bring a smile to someone. So I made these: | Eternal Happiness: Listining to the screams of People burning in Hell | | Eternal sadness: looking at sadists in heaven and the happy devil on earth. | | Why does God keep evil alive? So we can reach Him. (LOL) | | Contraptual agreement between God and Satan: I will keep you (satan) alive until you haress people on earth; so they know how important I am. | | What did God do for timepass before creating the universe and Humanbeings to play with? Who knows..... | | What did satan do for timepass before the universe was created? Answer: Not much | | Why did God come when adam was eating the apple and not when eve was eating it? Answer: So He could make christianity | | How did Noah find the male and female of ants? Answer: He used a microscope. | | How did Noah find the male and female of mosquitos? Answer: Intuition | | How did Noah catch the male and female of the snow tiger or the polar bear? Answer: That's simple; he went to the Himalayas and then to the north pole. | | How and where did Noah build such a big boat, without anyone knowing of it? Answer: Top Secret | | Why did God ask Noah to collect the male and female of all creaters? Answer: Cause creating them again would be such a pain. | | How did Noah catch the anaconda? Answer: He saw the movie 'anaconda' using a 'timemachine'. | | If Noah was alive he would have surely landed himself a job in the Discovery channel. Crocodile Hunter; who's that? | | Why did God take SIX long days to create earth? Answer: You don't expect him to create it in seconds do you? Afterall how powerful is He. | | What is the difference between a fanatic and a sadist? Answer: emmmmm thats a very difficult question. | | Church Heading: Become a member of our church for free and reserve a seat in Heaven. Come early, offer for limited period only. | | A fanatic is a person, who even after seeing the fossils of dinasoures; still believes in the 27 generations earth of Luke. | The understanding of a fanatic is crippled or he doesn't want to understand the ground realities that humanbeings are on their own here. And we better start helping each other, cause we are all travelling in the same boat. nodiscrimination
stopdiscrimination <stopdiscrimination2004@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 10:48:24 (PDT)
Stupid FREAKS... You cant' take under God out of the pledge. Burn in......Boilin water!
Jesus Freak <jrstar2@hotmail.com>
St. Clair, MO USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 10:45:27 (PDT)
good site
Ashanka <mugu@yahoo.com>
ga, ga ghana - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 05:24:14 (PDT)
Let me know how you like hell, you Christ denying reprobate.

Webmaster response: there is no Hell except that created by humans such as yourself here on earth.
Anonymous <nunya@business.com>
USA - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 04:21:35 (PDT)


John O'Dell is a hipocratic bastard who should have retired a long, long, long time ago. i think it's pretty obvious how he all of a sudden walks out, right in the middle of all of the chaos stirring and brewing with sullivan schools. hello? anyone there?
David Reynolds
Blountville, tn USA - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 19:19:01 (PDT)
your site has a lot of info and that is beneficial in terms of reaserch but i think that it is baised and not justified i dont like some of the words used in the articles because i dont thimk that they are right. i would also like to know what's your definition of a moderate musilim cuz i dont think that there is a general one. any ways its nice to know what the nonbelivers think just for more assurence!

Webmaster response: My mainpage makes it clear that this website does not practice political correctness. The information is correct and if it offends you, you can voice your opinion on it here. I've read what Muslims say about non-believers and the West in general and what I say here is very mild compared to the state sponsered hate broadcast in the Egyptian media 24 hours a day. What about the Muslim murder and terror of the Copts (Christians) the real people of Egypt before the country was ruined by Islam? As to what is a moderate Muslim, that's an oxymoron. I'll let the actions of the majority of Muslims speak for itself. Islam may have had honor at one time but has been so perverted that there just aren't enough decent Muslims to make any differance.

Islamic terror in Egypt


malak <mallakalli@hotmail.com>
Cairo, Egypt - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 13:30:12 (PDT)
A person can debate, for and against the so called religious texts all his life. It's like a debate between imagination and facts. Imagination is forever and finding facts is also a continuous process. A religious person may use his imagination to invent great things in a matter of seconds. When we imagine things, we tend to attribute our qualities to our imagination. Like for instance; when we imagine an alien, we see it as something which has hands, legs, eyes, ears, emotions of love, hate etc. Similarly, it is clearly visible that the present explanation of God, as presented by any religion for that matter, is nothing but an imagination. Religion presents God as someone who has all human emotions like Love (God loves you), Anger(God destroys His creations), Hate(God throws non believers in hell), sensitive (God gets hurt when he sees non believers and he keeps a stone in His heart before throwing a person in Hell), innocent or na�ve (God gets cheated by satan), sacrificer (God sacrifices His own son for His creations) etc etc. Religion presents God as an extremely sensitive, emotional and innocent being (cause man perceives that these are the qualities of a good person) Our emotions such as fear, hate, love, jealousy, vanity etc control us in a major way. They are very much responsible for our happiness and sufferings on this earth. Now, God is being controlled by the same emotions that control man! If you say that God only has the emotion of Love; then love in itself leads to suffering. So the all powerful God, doesn�t seem to be all powerful after all. He is controlled by Love and hence Love becomes more powerful than God! God destroyed His creations once in anger and hence anger becomes more powerful than God and so on. Again, some religions associate 'anger' with eil (cause anger is nothing but a byproduct of hate). If God has all these emotions that control Him, then He is no better than human beings. Cause a person who acts by emotions has a strong potential to err. And if God is controlled by Love and hence becomes like a sensitive and emotional human being; He too can err. And as the saying goes "its human to err" or may be "its God to err!" It is clearly visible that a human being has imagined God. The present idea of God, is nothing but a romantic imagination which presents God as a tyrant, a cruel master, an innocent person who gets cheated by satan, a bad teacher who induces fear to lead etc. There are people who cry for God (now how foolish is that), fight for God, fight to save Gods name (it doesn't get sicker than that), act as his sales and marketing representatives (the all powerful God uses man to propagate His name), market His love (or market their ego) etc. Some human being presents the idea of God, through his imagination; and there are people who are ready to waste their life as well as others lives; propagating that imagination, killing for that imagination, hating for that imagination, praising that imagination and so on. Its time we start respecting human beings. Its time we start helping humanity. Its time we stop looking at each other as religious entities. Let's learn to look at a human being as a human being first. Belief is a very personal thing and should never be organized.
Mukesh <m_mukesh22@yahoo.com>
India - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 12:04:18 (PDT)
This is the best site I have ever come across.
Mukesh
india - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 07:27:51 (PDT)
great
schmidt@esm.esmcity.de <schmidt@esm.esmcity.de>
USA - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 06:27:53 (PDT)
I cannot beleive I did that twice: editor please correct home page and book link to this one and then delete the extra messages: book
Andrew Cates <christianname@catesfamily.org.uk>
UK - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:54:42 (PDT)
My own position on creation is explained here book but one comment which seems to be missing from the discussion on this website/guestbook (which I've enjoyed) compared to the historical debate in the church, which I've studied, is that of "created old". For a fundamentalist (I confess that is not me) Adam was not created as a baby but as a man, he was created "old". Same for animals, trees etc. When he was made he looked in every way like he'd been alive for years. So why can we not suggest the rest of the earth and universe had been created "old" and look in every way as though it was $5bn years old? Then there is no argument: for a scientist the claim of a creation date 4000 years ago is untestable and people who want want religious certainty can believe what they wish? Then we can pray together and get on with the rather more important business of what we should be doing to bring the Kingdom of God on earth today.

Webmaster response: I'm aware Adam was "created" an adult. As for the universe created to "look old," why would God play such silly games? What would be the use of it? I have religious certainty myself but not their version. My brother-in-law found Jesus and is much better off for it as I'm sure many others are. If he wants to believe the earth is a few thousand years old, then God bless him, let him believe whatever it takes. In fact I think human evolution as such should be left out of public schools along with Biblical Creationism becuase these subjects are too complex for kids to grasp. The fighting and discord this generates isn't worth it. Leave it for college. Your point is well taken. Thanks for your input.
Andrew Cates <christianname@catesfamily.org.uk>
uk - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:48:10 (PDT)


reasonable factual historical information intresting invective
paul rossi <paul.ross18@btinternet.com uk>
manchester, uk - Sunday, April 04, 2004 at 15:25:35 (PDT)
FUNDIES: You all are really strange. It frightens me to know that people who believe such things and practice it exists. This is no different than the muslims who take their faith to a radical point. You critisize others but remember, everyones believe are as important and held as sincerly as your own. God will be the judge as it says in the bible, not you.
Ashley
WV USA - Sunday, April 04, 2004 at 11:36:44 (PDT)
Hey! Thanks for the information,I found it to be very helpful in many areas. Has everyone overlooked the Sullivan BOE lawsuits?Are we living in the dark ages or what?I feel very offended by the way they handle those situations and look forward to someone taking a stand to STOP the racial issues surrounding those children.It is no wonder the rest of the world sees us as backwoods,backwards,hillbillies! A name we earned at the hands of those making a astounding $90,000.00 a year!I cannot name one single person I have ever known that lives here to make that much,except John O'Dell!!! Help fight the INJUSTICE, speak out!
Suffering as a Direct Result of Sullivan BOE !
Kingsport , TN USA - Saturday, April 03, 2004 at 23:05:54 (PST)
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TX, USA - Saturday, April 03, 2004 at 17:09:35 (PST)
Its quite common these days for evolutionary sites to attempt a bashing on AnswersInGenesis.org,seeing as though its one of the best refuting tools around for reuting the guesses of evolution. But in public school textbooks, students are shown experiments where scientists have been trying to create what they believe were conditions on Earth millions of years ago. Then they try to see if they could make life from chemicals. But what are they really doing? They are using their intelligence to design experiments and complicated pieces of equipment, trying to make life to prove that it all happened by chance! Students can see how illogical this is. The scientists aren�t using chance�but their intelligence! Because all of these experiments have failed, some cientists have stated that life didn�t evolve on Earth after all. They believe that it must have evolved somewhere in outer space�and then arrived on Earth! Then they think they have solved the problem about the origin of life�but they have just pushed the problem further out into space! These scientists could save millions of dollars if only they would read the greatest Book of all time�the Bible, starting with Genesis�which has all the answers we need. ThanX,Louie Buren <><

Webmaster response: "Creationism" and "intelligent design" are codewords for Genesis. As a Creationist myself, AnswersInGenesis.org is a fraud. Their abuse of science and just plain lies discredits themselves. Again I will state their real theme according to them: "AiG's main thrust...is on Biblical authority. Believing in a relatively 'young Earth' (i.e., only a few thousands of years old, which we accept) is a consequence of accepting the authority of the Word of God as an infallible revelation..."

Thus if the Bible says the earth is flat or the sun circles the earth (which it does) then the Bible is correct regardless. There is no way to reason with those that have abandoned reason for blind faith. So which of the Two Creation Stories do we believe? Science regardles of its use by those promoting atheism, does not deal in religious theology or matters of faith. Evolution for the 10,000th time does not disprove God. It does not say "life began by random chance" and if it does, then that is the opinion of the writer and shouldn't be there at all. It does disprove Paul becuase it disproves a literal Adam. Without Paul, there is no Christianity. The only reason fundamentalists attack science is because of the total lack of proof for the Adam and the Apple Myth. You are welcome to your faith, but it has no place in science or in a science textbook. See Evolution Debate and Paul, Founder of Christianity. Louis Buren JR. <lionheart_209@yahoo.com>
CA USA - Saturday, April 03, 2004 at 11:28:49 (PST)


Hi! I haven't been in touch for a while but I thought I'd sign the guest book to tell you how much we enjoy the website. It's useful in more ways than I can write here and great fun as well. Thanks! Helen.
Helen C <amy>
Uk - Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 23:47:07 (PST)
great information!
Bill Cirone <dont@send.it>
Napole, IT - Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 17:06:02 (PST)
ex-UPC'er that stumbled across your site while broswing the ex-pentecostal.org site and found your link there in the essays section...
cw
USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 16:31:52 (PST)
Hi, I stumbled onto your site looking for two-headed cows because I have to prepare a speech on the effects of nuclear power, but noticed that it wasn't what I was looking for. Because I found it intriguing, I skimmed over some of the pages and noticed that you confuse the paganistic Roman Catholic Church with Christianity. This church was mainly interested in politics and money (hence the idea of selling indulgences to free a relatives soul from purgatory, something not even aluded to in the Bible). They were the cause of Islam. Muhammed found the religion unique, but the hypocrisy and paganism of the Catholic Church greatly disturbed him. The Catholic Church at one time killed anyone owning a copy of the Bible because they did not want anyone to discover their lies. Also, I noticed that you thought that Adam didn't die after eating the fruit of the forbidden tree; Christians believe that he did. Not physically, but spiritually. Lastly, Many Christians that I have met do not believe that Creation or evolution are scientific. To be scientific, they must be able to be observed in a lab. Creation has not been observed in a lab, and neither has evolution. Survival of the fittest enables species to adapt, but eliminates any mutations (such as two-headed animals or winged horses). Thank you for your vast information and insight, Jeffrey Wagner

Webmaster response: A warm thanks Jeffrey, but regardless of you views, Catholics are in fact Christians according to the Nicene Creed. As for evolution and Adam, see above.
Jeffrey Wagner <wagnerjr@findlay.edu>
Findlay, OH USA - Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 11:05:47 (PST)


I was blown away by the article by Lewis Loflin titled "Reason in the Balance and why Fundamentalists are Beyond Reason". I am dealing with a hardcore fundamentalist coworker that has challenged me to explore my beliefs. I am glad he did!!! This article about sums up what I have been trying to understand and explain since I was born. Wow! Well, well done and just excellent, excellent reading! Brad
Bradley P. <none>
Bloomington, MN USA - Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 11:05:02 (PST)
Hello, just surfed in. I have to say that your website is great. I would like to introduce you to Metagrid Magazine - A small magazine in Kentucky (I work there). Please send me a e-mail if possible. Please let us know if we can be of any help. Take care.
Carol Jeffrey <carol>
Kentucky US - Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 01:18:21 (PST)
Thanks so much for this site. One of the best research sites on the web. Thanks again
Kelley
USA - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 16:31:48 (PST)
I agree, Mr. Loflin. This area never fails to amaze me, either. It makes me just want to scream out to everyone, "What are you all doing?!" I bust my rear end and work 2 jobs, just so that I can not only afford to live, but to also attend college part-time. I wish that I could attend full-time, but with my earnings being so poor, I cannot. And to think just for a split second that I am working to pay for all of this local nonsense literally sickens me. I would not have a problem if the money that we, the taxpayers, pay, was actually spent for good, civil reasons. Instead, it is not. We are paying for new roads, and re-pavement of these newer roads. On top of that, Meadowview can sure afford to build a new branch off of the 181 section. Kingsport promised the residents that Meadowview was to be a huge attraction and shopping center. Well, it isn't. It is the place to go if you'd like to buy guns and knives, and for local proms and banquets. Then, we are AGAIN told that Kingsport is about to become the home of a Target and of a Chili's. I'll believe that when I see it with my own two eyes, while there is no proof that it won't be. I'm sick and tired of being lied to, and of getting my hopes up for nothing. It's difficult to hang in there. It's easier said than done, really. But, you are right. That's all that anyone can do.
Sherry Lawson <n/a>
Kingsport, Tn USA - Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 20:22:22 (PST)
This community never fails to amaze me. We talk about education and spend millions on schools, only to find most employers won't hire us because anything above an 8th grade education is considered a threat. I was told directly by Electrolux (before they went to Mexico claiming an illiterate workforce)"we don't hire people with college." Guess that's why they only hire Mexicans now.

Don't blame the Mexicans or Indians, they are abused to death by these companies. Then we have idiotic things like giving teachers some batteries for a B or this person fired trying to help a women being abused at work.

I can say this to all the local folks on this kind of nonsense. I have plenty of reason to just give up but I refuse to do so. I can stay at home and collect a check any time I want to with a disabled spouse. To do so means they win and I won't give them the satisfaction. I'll say the same to the rest of you that visit this page and leave a message. Keep fighting any way you can even if it's to express an opinion. Don't give these corrupt SOBs the satisfaction of beating anyone down. They may think most of us are white trash or the N word for black people, but most of them couldn't microwave a pork chop. (Yes I knew one rich fat cat that couldn't) Hang in there and know you are not alone.
Lewis Loflin <lewis@sullivan-county.com>
Bristol, VA USA - Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 09:30:56 (PST)


My child attends Sullivan Central and she is an A & B student. She had a C average in a math class. So she ask her math teach if she could do some extra credit to bring that C to a B. Instead of giving my daughter work, she told her if she would bring in some batteries for her calculator she would give her a B. Now, how is that for teaching????????
Renee
Blountville, TN USA - Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 07:38:48 (PST)
I meant to go into detail in my previous entry about this area's schools. I attend ETSU majoring in business full-time, and you would be simply amazed at the high numbers of students that are from other states. I know people from Michingan, from Florida, Texas, and even as far as California. There are also many students from other countries. I have always lived in Kingsport, and I have watched this area become almost a ghost town, if you will. It used to be that you could drop out of high school and get hired at Eastman all in the same day. We locals all know that doesn't apply any longer. To even be considered for a job at Eastman nowadays, you are required to have at least some type of a degree. Sometimes, a degree doesn't help much either. People that are transfering to ETSU from other states and countries are only SCREWING themselves if they plan on living AND working in this area. I'm not saying that you are screwed if you decide to live elsewhere while obtaining a degree or degrees from ETSU, but I am saying that you are if you think that you can live comfortably in the area after graduating. There are no jobs in this area, or at least, no high paying jobs that could secure an entire family just by a mother or a father working. That doesn't occur around here. I plan to pack my things and head off to a bigger and better place, such as Atlanta when I graduate. Kingsport has became a place of illegal citizens, retirees, and chaos.
Sherry Lawson <n/a>
Kingsport, Tn USA - Wednesday, March 24, 2004 at 12:38:17 (PST)
Wow, I had no idea about how bad things really were with our local county schools. I'm a frequent visitor to this site, and by the way, you are doing an EXCELLENT job, Lewis. Keep it up! I'm sure that many people get offended at the cold truth, but I for one am glad that you have posted and continue to post all of the true statistics and information. What's more, I think that it is great that you allow each of your visitors the equal opportunity to voice his/her opinions. I love to come here and to read about not only what is happening in my community, but also about what others think. Great job! As I was saying earlier, it is sad to know what really happens inside of the schools that we don't get to see and hear. I've read so many of the articles on hear, and I basically have the same opinions as everyone else. The incident with the student bringing a pistol to North really bothers me, and I'm sure that if it turns out that the two people that he was attempting to scare are students of North, they probably won't be punished for their bullying attitudes. Rather, it will be the student that brought the gun. Don't get me wrong, I disagree with what he did, but if you ask me, I think the two bullies should get more punishment, for leading the student to do such a thing. When will we ever learn that bullying really does lead to problems, emotionally? It's nature to try to defend yourself. Get a grip, North. I do not support North. For my own reasons, I'd prefer to see it close, and I'd like to see certain faculty lose his/her jobs. Some of them simply do not deserve to be considered as faculty, much less teachers.
Sherry Lawson <n/a>
Kingsport, Tn USA - Wednesday, March 24, 2004 at 12:27:51 (PST)
Here is a good one!!! A man who works for a company that is a "vendor" of a very large organization in Erwin, TN, and was also a Union Steward, was fired recently for reporting sexual harrassement of a female employee who ask this man to help her. The man told the lady to contact her boss, she said she did 3 times and her boss told her to watch which end of the snake she grabs. The man then proceded to have the female write down what happend to her and the man took this to the Company the vendor worked for. All this did was get the man fired as stated "unauthorized contact with a client" on his termination notice. This man has a wife and four kids. The man accused of sexual harressment is still with the vendor, the female reporting the abuse is still being abused. This Erwin company seems to condone mistreatment of women!!!
S
Blountville, TN USA - Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 13:21:09 (PST)
Great site. Very true and well spoken. Here is another for anyone interest. http://www.sheepwatch.com/
Mark Strong
USA - Saturday, March 20, 2004 at 16:59:05 (PST)
cool site. keep up the good work. Check out mine at http://www.luxeonics.com
webmaster <webmaster@luxeonics.com>
USA - Friday, March 19, 2004 at 08:06:22 (PST)
Lewis, I just have to tell you how delighted I was to happen across your site, which is a huge breath of fresh air. Though I've lived in the DC area for over 20 years, I was raised in East Tennessee as a Southern Baptist. The Baptist Church taught me to be a good, loving, forgiving person - and it also taught me to be ashamed of my body and my sexuality, which was in large part responsible for the failure of two marriages. It attempted to teach me to hate, but being a smart girl, I was never able to resist using my God given brain to think for myself. I can't explain why exactly - I guess I'm just not cut out to be a sheep. I was just never willing to swallow it all without examining it to determine whether it had the ring of truth. Much of it did - who could argue with the importance of being a loving, forgiving person, at least within healthy psychological bounds? But much of it did not. Christ set a beautiful example for all of us, and then mortal men proceeded to twist and bend and manipulate it beyond all recognition. What I heard about Christianity being the only valid religion, about sex being wrong, and especially the justifications for harrassing others about their religious beliefs or lack thereof via evangelism and "witnessing", to name a few, did not. When I went to college my ability to examine these matters became even more sophisticated, and in so doing convinced me that though I believe in God and am a Christian, mainstream Christianity as practiced by the Baptist Church is toxic to me personally, as well as to our society. That was 30 years ago, and the toxicity has spread like wildfire over the last 20 or so of them. After my second divorce I got some counseling and managed to cast off the sex negativity that was ruining my ability to engage in a healthy relationship. From that point on I haven't looked back, and today I am a member of the board of directors of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom http://www.ncsfreedom.org and very proud to be working for the rights of consenting adults to express in private their sexuality in the way that best meets their needs free of governmental and societal interference. The religious extremists keep us very busy via attempts to disrupt lawful gatherings of consenting adults held in private which are absolutely none of their business. I am also co-founder of the Institute for 21st Century Relationships - http://www.lovethatworks.org , a non-profit research and education organization that supports with research data and other educational activities the work of those who advocate for sexual minorities who suffer from discrimination, as well as sex educators, counselors and therapists, all of whom have their hands full helping battle the affects of the social disease of sex-negativity. So keep on telling it like it is down there in the buckle of the Bible Belt, Lewis - you have a new fan in this spiritual warrior, and I'll be stoping by often. - Anita Wagner
Anita Wagner <anita-wagner@cox.net>
Herndon, VA USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 19:38:04 (PST)
The benighted reactionaries that oppose the honoring of God in public are nothing more than constitutional shysters who distort the meaning of the 1st amendment. Many of the same remain curiously ambivalent to the overt infringement of genuine rights endowed by our Creator. Well said that the Constitution is inadequate for other than a religious and moral people.

Webmaster response: Please explain to all of us benighted reactionaries just how is it you can't honor God in public? This community has a church in places every quarter mile. People place Ten Commandments plaques in their yards (in violation of local sign laws) and go unmolested. Christians state their opinions openly in the local newspapers along with those that oppose them. They have local radio stations preaching to us 24 hours a day, and people like myself have websites where issues on God are openly discussed.

There are Christian links on this very guestbook I leave for the public to visit and Christian links on my links page I place there at the request of Christians. But they are posted beside those that don't agree with your view and they get equal billing. Every time people like you don't get an exclusive place and are treated like everybody else, you whine about persecution. Yes, there are groups that do abuse Christians, but Christians abuse and attack each other all the time. How many times have I heard from Evangelical bigots say that Catholics and Mormons are not Christians? By the Nicene Creed Catholics are Christians just as much as Protestants and while Mormons might in the technical sense be heretics, so were the original Christians butchered by the church as heretics. If Jesus had his original church here today He would be a heretic.

I don't care what Christians believe or disbelieve, I judge them only as individuals. If one doesn't like my material, visit one of the Christian links. Your real complaint is you have to sell your religion on the merits without government coersion or recognition. If you can't sell it, that's your problem.
Bendito
USA - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 01:20:22 (PST)


Your faith in evolution which has zero facts to support it, shows that this is your own religion. This site is your bible. http://www.evolution-facts.org/default.htm

Webmaster response: Let's cut the crap and get to facts. I left the link DJ supplied as a good example of the kind of dishonesty some people engage in. When I checked out their claims, it turned out to be links to related websites all using each other as a reference. None of them present a single reference to a reputable science journal or scientist. Their experts were in unrelated field such as zoology or electrical engineering. This is called false authority. Another reference that said evolution was false was Physics Bulletin 31, 1980. It doesn't exist or I can't locate it. Physics Bulletin 31, put out by the American Institute of Physics concerns carbon atoms and was published in 1991. Science journals don't even engage in such subjects and even if true, so what? One disgruntled scientist proves nothing. Does every Christian that became an atheist prove atheism is correct and Christianity is false For more on this type of dishonest tactics see, Creationist' Tactics

In checking out DJ's page, one website did state what the problem really was: the Apostle Paul. Let's get the facts correct on Paul. The Christian Apostles were Jewish men who were (as indicated by the Greek word apostolos) "sent forth", by Jesus to preach Christianity to both Jews and Gentiles, across the world.

Paul became an apostle after Jesus' resurrection (2 Cor. 1:1) and was never appointed by Jesus and never even met Him the flesh. He claimed some voice and "flash of light" (Acts 9:2) during a seizure while on the road to Damascus. Paul, along with his converts like Barnabas (Acts 14:14), and other Gentile followers/converts such as Luke, established churches (Rom. 15:17-20) that would become Christianity, as we know it. In his own writings Paul described himself as an apostle (e.g. Romans 1:1 and other letters) specifically referring to himself as 'the Apostle to the Gentiles' (Romans 11:13). He also described/appointed some of his companions as apostles. (Romans 16:5-7) One of these is no doubt Luke; the writer of Luke and by tradition Acts that introduces Paul into the picture. (See Colossians 14:4) In 2 Timothy 14:4 we find not only Luke, but also Mark, who likely wrote the Gospel of Mark and who again seems to have appeared with Luke. Mark was the basis of Matthew and everywhere we look we find Paul. The several writers of the various Johns seem to by tradition come from a Greek convert(s) in Ephasious and just drips with Greek philosophy. Paul founded the Church in Ephasus. (Modern Turkey)

His poor knowledge of Judaism failed to sway most Jews. For example, God tells us in Deuteronomy 30:14: But the word is very near to you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it. But Paul contradicts God in Romans 10:8, "But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach). Paul invented the concept of oiginal sin that was a late concept in Judaism. Without a historical Adam, Christianity gets "nailed to the cross." Any theologian will tell you that Paul defines the meaning of Jesus in the Christian faith.

Paul fought constantly with Jesus Jewish followers, the Christian Gnostics, and anyone else that denied his self-proclaimed authority. He attacked other gospels (Gal. 1:6-9) and defended his gospel (Phil. 1:7,17). The whole question becomes, does one have "faith alone" based on Paul's say-so alone that he talked to a dead/resurrected Jesus? Evolution isn't the problem DJ. Most people today just wouldn't believe that "casting out demons" as depicted in Scripture is a cure for mental illness.

Finally on this evolution issue, DJ and others like him stick us with false choices. It's either evolution and atheism or Six-Day Creationism (and Paul) and God. Over 80% of those that believe evolution believe in God. Most people come to this conclusion in college, not high school science classes. I never had evolution at all in any public school I ever attended nor was it taught at King College where I had most of my science and Bible classes. Their problem with me was I read the Bible starting with the Old Testament before anyone could convert (brainwash) me into a particular dogma. For example, there is a gradual change in Judaism from henotheism to monotheism. The concept of angels change from servants of God in pre-Exile books to more demon-like and rebellious in post-Exile books reflecting influences from Babylonian and Zoroastrian religions. By the time we jump a 400 year history gap between Malachi and Matthew, we have demons everywhere and the widespead use of magic and sorcery. (Claims of it anyway.)By reading it as written in a historical/rational context, it's easy to see most Christian dogma is the invention of man.

Most evolutionists believe evolution is the process by which God formed the world and universe, as we know it. But it does undermine the basis of Paul's self-proclaimed authority. Jesus' true message (what is left of it) is in His parables, Sermon on the Mount, James, and parts of Mark and Luke. (Be careful of Bible versions, they conflict.) That's my opinion only. (More below on this subject.)

Science only deals in material and mechanical processes and doesn't deal in concepts such as God or "why we are here" any more then a Chilton's auto repair manual does. I'll warn the reader again as I have in my Deism pages not to treat science or reason by itself as some infallible gospel. A true Freethinker will question closely all claims of authority including those that treat science/evolution as a type of religious dogma. See my page Evolution Debate in Schools.
dj
USA - Tuesday, March 16, 2004 at 18:04:43 (PST)


well they can move the town as they say to keep the water from flooding/ as my father always said where the lord wonts the water to go it will go no matter what they do. I think it is a wast of money moving the town. we moved from Grundy because of no work now we reside in florida. where we can work and try to make a livening for our selves. sandy shortridge we really like the song you wrote about the town. may god bless all of you.
Loudella Clevinger <lyts9@wmconnect.com>
Grundy, va USA - Monday, March 15, 2004 at 20:30:59 (PST)
Now there are lots of threats being made that Sullivan North High will either close, become a k-8 school, or will be a 7-12 school. I think it should just be closed.
Diane
kingsport, tn USA - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 14:50:06 (PST)
oops! sorry I made a couple of corrections and now you've 3 versions of my meandering nonsense, as if one wasn't enough. The last one is correct feel free to erase the other two. Neville
neville elder
USA - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 10:27:04 (PST)
Co incidence brought me this country, from England 4 years ago and co incidence brought me here five minutes ago, and I was overwhelmed! This is the best use of the internet I've seen. This is what it is for. I've bookmarked and will drift back from time to time. Some of the clearest writing i've seen on religious theory in here in these pages, and helped by the openess of the writers position - no hidden texts here. My only critisism is it is sprawls like a Las Vegas suburb It could use a central directory and brief mission statement at the home page. What is this site called? Oh, and briefly dipping into the pages on Ataturk there is very little on his extreme nationalism. I think he gets too much of a pat on the back. Where are all the Armenians? That of course is just my opinion. I would be delighted to offer any of my Photography for use on the site (see url) just to brighten the place up a bit! But I do like this illustrations of Jefferson, and the like. more power to your pixel Neville

Webmaster response: Thanks for your input. I did put a warning on the Ataturk page on the subject you brought up. There are about 800 pages on this site that I've added over the last six years covering a variety of issues I write about in the local newspapers. It started out as a political protest because I had so many problems with religious fundamentalists and local government in this community, I had to know where they got their ideas from. So I ended researching most of the Christian religion only to find out most of their nonsense had little to do with Christian anything. As to a central directory, it would be so big and hard to constantly update I decided on gateway pages such as those in the box at the bottom of this page.

This has also involved presenting conflicting views in many cases because most things are not just black and white. I've gotten hate mail and love mail in the same day on the same subject because the reader found separate but opposite pages on the same subject. My politics are not conservative or Liberal as defined by the two main political parties. I think most Americans don't fit those molds anyway. As for a name, I'm open to suggestions. I also liked your photos as well.

I also use simple page designs because so many browsers throw a fit. What works in Internet Explorer messes up on Netscape, etc. As for a mission statement, it's simple: present the facts as best I can find them. This site has evolved over the years and will continue to do so. For example, how could we have known about 911 six years ago? I never planned to look into Islam, events dictated otherwise.

I ran two small articles on Islam only to get a slew of death threats. Islam as such in the theological sense is related to Unitarianism, Judaism, and Deism, but we must not forget that the culture that surrounds any system of religion is what determines how that religion is practiced. This is made worse when a religion is combined into a political institution such as government. When I was stationed in West Berlin while in the army I had several good Turkish friends and still think highly of the Turks. But these were secular Muslims and Westerners in the cultural sense. At no time did we try to convert each other, but they were proud Muslims amd made it known they were. They never gave up Islam but didn't take it to extremes nor use it as an excuse for failure.
neville elder <neville@nevilleelder.com>
Sea Cliff, NY USA - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 10:22:55 (PST)


greeting's from Indianapolis
r.h. <br_hicman@yahoo.com>
indpls., ind. USA - Thursday, March 11, 2004 at 08:17:12 (PST)
GOD Bless
j r
USA - Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 12:41:21 (PST)
Just browsing through your pages... you seem to have made a mistake with u'r 'gospels' section. Mark was the first gospel to be written. Matthew and Luke used Mark and an hypothetical source Q. This is still speculative, but very few biblical scholars will say Matthew was written first.
Irwin
Vancouver, Canada - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 19:10:01 (PST)
Jesus is my good shepherd, my Lord, my provider, my protector. He is the same for ever. He is a God of wonders. He is my personal Savior .I love Him, because He loved me before I loved Him. His love is selfless .He said to me"feedmylambs@biblegate.org. It tells us how much He is concerned to His lambs .He left all His glory and came to save me who was lost. He made me the heir of His kingdom gave eternal life. His love is flawless and it is perpetual.It is a great privilege for me to visit and sign on your wonderful guestbook. Very nice.
Pastor.O.Ratna Kumar <feedmylambs@computermail.net>
Tenali, AP India - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 10:42:50 (PST)
visiting
r.h. <worldprophecycenter@yahoo.com>
indpls, in USA - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 08:15:46 (PST)
we're all redneck, what can we say?
Redneck
kingsport, tn USA - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 20:27:09 (PST)
There is no Palestine
David
USA - Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 16:41:53 (PST)
i was looking for some information on a short paper i have to do on the culture clash of the 1910s and 1920s and found your website. it has definitely been informative. keep up the good work!
tmholland
tx USA - Saturday, March 06, 2004 at 22:26:40 (PST)
Hello! With respect to all readers. :)
ATAT <AT8080@yahoo.com>
- Monday, March 01, 2004 at 23:29:59 (PST)
I must say that the "Golden Age of Islam = Myth" article doesn't make the cut. No one is saying that a "Golden Age" is all good... the Romans had the Colosseum and Nero... they also killed Christians, but the Roman empire is the damn DEFINITION of a "Golden Age". Furthermore, how can you not take in to account that we today still can se the effects of this age...the numbers are Arabic for gods sake! And what of your own arguments? "The way anyone can admire American freedom, Japanese order, Israeli courage, or Italian style." HA! Don't make me laugh... as a neutral foreign observer i can tell that there's a lot i don't admire about those examples. Last thing I heard Bush plans too forbid Homosexuals to get married: Freedom? I beg to differ, it's all about what you focus on. You better review your sources.

Webmaster response: you are not a neutral anything. The article was more an attack on Western Liberals that glorify any culture, no matter how violent or evil, to attack the West. You need to check your sources. The numbers you claim are Arabic (for God's sake) originated with the Hindus and was transmitted by the Arabs. The Arabs/Muslims themselves created little and got most of their knowledge from the Hindus, Persians, and Greeks. For few short centuries the fringes of Islam did shine in Spain and with the Abbasid Caliphs in Baghdad. But elsewhere they continued the process Christians had well begun in destroying all learning and knowledge that threatened the Koran. The Mongols finished them off in Baghdad and Christians destroyed Muslim Spain.

That process still goes on today as any Muslim that dares to think for him/herself faces death in most Muslim countries. The effects of this medieval religion and outlook are still here with us today. Now they have combined this Wahhabisim perversion with nonsense introduced from the West producing homicide bombers and terrorists against everyone, Muslims included.

Islam and Christianity alike for the most part have destroyed knowledge and murdered millions. To keep from exterminating each other, many Christians decided to renounce religious terror and tyranny. Few Muslims have and are now going through that process where the choice is simple: have an Islamic reformation and become civilized or wipe each other out or have the West wipe you out. The article istands as is and this website DOES NOT PRACTICE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
Critic
- Monday, March 01, 2004 at 01:41:44 (PST)


Very interesting site to say the least. I'm still searching for the answer. How do the FC reconcile their beliefs with the killing taking place in Iraq.

Response: Their religion (I assume you mean fundamentalist Christians) has nothing to do with the killing in Iraq. Most of that is due to Islamo-fascits killing anyone in sight including Muslims. It also has nothing to Israel as these irrational conspiracy theorists love to preach. Let's not forget that America was attacked and 3000 people were murdered while Islamo-fascists danced in the streets of Gaza City and Leftists blamed America as usual. This is a war of freedom verses savages that goes beyong geo=politics or religion.
Deebee <webmaster@letsfixamerica.com>
USA - Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 08:14:02 (PST)


Thanks for the geneology of Jesus. While it does not affect the "Son of God" part of his geneology, it certainly does show the Jews' Messiah has not yet returned. Thus we are left with a chosen people still wandering through the deserts awaiting the son of David, and, ahem, Christians following Jesus. Incidentally, I would assume any formal attempt to adopt Jesus would have resulted in Mary's stoning since Joseph would have to explain why he was trying to adopt his own son.
Michael Marr <msmarr1999@yahoo.com>
Lawrenceville, GA USA - Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 03:38:53 (PST)
Interesting site.
David Erman <dre7thday@yahoo.com>
Garland, TX USA - Saturday, February 28, 2004 at 10:33:57 (PST)
My un-faith is that of an agnostic..i'd be an athiest if I could get over the "spark of life" problem. The Buddists seem to have a handle on what it means to be a honorable being..can't say much for the rest.. Just starting the book " The Fundamentals of Extremeism" edited by Kimberly Blaker..a great book for anyone interested seeking the truth about the christian right.
Dan Nichols <chiefw4@seacove.net>
Kempner, TX USA - Thursday, February 26, 2004 at 20:56:05 (PST)
Very interesting site! I actually work in the clintwood location for Travelocity. All, I see constantly in the local newspapers is positive things about Travelocity. I must say that we have been lied to from the time the company has opened the doors. I work in the sales dept and our incentive checks have steadily decreased because of cutbacks by Mgmt. When you go from averaging 1000 dollars on an incentive check to 200 something is wrong. There are several issues that the media needs to look into at Travelocity. Recently also it was said that the IDA has approved 2 million dollars to be used as an incentive for Travelocity to stay for 2 more years. Im just wondering why we would want a company to stay when we know there going to leave in 2 years? I think the 2 million dollars could be used to fund some college work for the employees. I just hope Travelocity rejects the Idiotic offer of 2 million and moves on. The tax breaks and incentives for companies to move into this area are getting a little old. If anyone has any information about the offers for Travelocity to stay please email me.
Concerned employee <gcs_skins@hotmail.com>
Coeburn, Va USA - Thursday, February 26, 2004 at 18:57:22 (PST)
visiting greetings
robert <worldprophecycenter@yahoo.com>
indpls, in USA - Thursday, February 26, 2004 at 09:12:02 (PST)
This is a very good website. Worth looking at. Please check out my website at www.webspawner.com/users/gnosticrob/index.html
Gnostic Rob <gnosticrob@aol.com>
UK - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 17:01:06 (PST)
unbiased opinions ,and tolerance are a thing of the past ,every one is always right in his own eyes ,it is nice to come upon an opion that is non judgemental ,and totaly ethical,
randolph shillingford <bomberh22@rocler.com>
Dollard Des Ormeaux, canada - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 07:49:16 (PST)
just passing by--greeting's
r.h. <br_hicman@yahoo.com>
Indpls, in USA - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 09:20:35 (PST)
Yeeeaah, it is csool
Bendor <bend@mail.com>
- Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 02:31:34 (PST)
WEll,well well. Looks like the the satellite companies say that we qualify for local chanals. So I guess that when WCYB TV denied all those waivers to recieve local channels from, lets say Roanoke, they didn't figure on ever getting local broadcast in the mountains. So what Im wondering is what if all the people who switched from out satallites to that expencive cable just to be able to get channell 5, 7, 9 and 11 were to come together and take WCYB to court to recover the losses created by there greed to hold a monopoly on viewers and advertising dollars?
Matthew Sutherland
Castlewood, VA USA - Friday, February 20, 2004 at 04:12:56 (PST)
I am saddend by negativness you have had to absorb from living in that damned place. I totaly sympathize with you and understand what you're goign though. There is alot of that very ignorant, monotheisticaly motivated, xenophobia in eastern north carolina (with a heavy presence of racism from both blacks and whites). I joke around about how the Raleigh Durham Triangle Park is like an island in a sea of bumkin ignorance. I feel trapped with method of escape from this "triange". Perhaps the education level of the triangle is far better than the surrounding areas. But from my experience, an educated redneck is still a redneck. There is no ammount of "education" a redneck can get that can fix the "ignorant gene" breed in them. i use the term redneck loosely...there are some respectable and honorable rednecks out there. i have meet them. but many are not respectable or honorable...they are trash, ignorant, racist, insane, xeno-culture-phobic (best word i can come up with for someone afraid of ANYTHING of differnt culture or views from thier upbringing). but, i am ranting and ravign.....i sypathize with you...i understand your hell...and i can only hope that your escape is successful.
dorian A. <d0rian@yahoo.com>
raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, February 19, 2004 at 09:06:59 (PST)
�how can usa people be as stupid as they are?, as fundamentalist as they are, as brainless as they are, as ... Come on GROW UP, LEARN, READ BOOKS, and don't bother the rest of the world. Osama nuke USA please!!!
GOD <GOD@hotmail.com>
kingdom, f.u.c.k.-usa - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 19:20:18 (PST)
Jamie:
I have read most but not all inclusive of the complaints written by parents and students. Unfortuately, it appears that the powers of the BOE are limited by statute as to what they can and cannot do.
Do you know that the BOE has no legal authority unless they are in a called meeting? The legislative intent is only to allow the BOE to set "policy" and allow the Director of Schools to implement it as he sees fit. As a matter of fact, the BOE is to refer all complaints and problems to the Director for resolution.
The BOE has employment review over the Director, but apparently our BOE has delined to participate in the process. The State Education Dept. has an entire program set up to assist in the evaluation, but there are no standards published anywhere.
As a matter of fact, they voted to extend Dr. O'Dell's contract by 2 years without a formal review.
According to the BOE, he is doing a great job and they have no complaints. I don't think you can continue to pay someone a $90,000+ salary and not take a look at what the results are. Is the system meeting its goals? Is the system turning out a quality product?
Comments and questions from the peanut gallery are welcome.

j.c. <chap@tfn.net>
kingsport, tn USA - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 18:54:26 (PST)
J.C., have you read all of the complaints from various residents about the conditions in the Sullivan County schools? I thought that the story by the young lady, Shanda, that went to Sullivan North was the most shocking myself. If you haven't read her story, you should, along with all of the others from students, parents, and residents. It truly is shocking. I visited the page about the findings in Sullivan Central, and it did not come as a surprise to me. I can guarantee that if whoever performed investigations like the one that was performed at Central, the results would be very similar, if not worse. We all need to examine what happens in these schools. From past experiences when my children attended them, I would not send my dog to any Sullivan school. At the time, I did not want to switch my children to the city schools. However, there were some horrible things that came to the surface, and I felt that it would only benefit my children if I switched them. I'm glad that I did.
Jamie Smith
Kingsport, TN USA - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 11:40:15 (PST)
Are all plumbers the same? Many believe that they are, and categorize ALL who believe that they are descended from the scattered ten tribes as haters. "They're all the same"...this is a form of hate.
Phillip <khyron_4@lycos.com>
Tempe, AZ USA - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 02:39:23 (PST)
Sullivan County Family Court report as of June 30, 2003 http://www.state.tn.us/tcjfcj/reports/2003_Yearly_Summaries/ scroll down to access the Sullivan County report.
Some interesting information here.

j.c. <chap@tfn.net>
kingsport, tn USA - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 19:25:33 (PST)
Lewis:
here are the results of the Central High School audit:
http://www.comptroller.state.tn.us/ma/reports/sullivan.pdf
Interesting that the BOE and Dr. O'Dell had nothing to add to what was said.

j.c. <chap@tfn.net>
kingsport, tn USA - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 18:58:34 (PST)
To the person who is considering running for the Sullivan County BOE: I agree 101% w/ you on your opinions, while I believe that they are far more than opinions, rather, facts. They aren't good facts. As a parent, and although I have switched my children into the city schools, I would tell you that the minimum that I would expect from ANY school system is a generally great education. Students need to be taught more than just the basic and general requirements. They need to be taught about the dangers of drugs, the risks of unprotected sex, peer pressure, and drunk driving especially. Our current leaders want to stem away from such important topics, and when the students do not have guidance in the home, it serves as a substitute. Good luck on your desire, and I hope that eventually, Sullivan County schools will actually be a positive model. Jamie Smith
Jamie Smith
Kingsport, TN USA - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 18:04:36 (PST)
In our bill of rights it is stated that all men are created equal and that we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. We have the rights to life and liberty which are self explanatory but, what about the right to the pursuit of happiness? This is one right which is completly overlooked and abused. The founding fathers were very intelligent and insightful men. The rights to life and liberty were guaranteed but they knew that there was no guarantee that one would find happiness. What is guaranteed is the right to pursue happiness. Basically this means that we have the right to pursue whatever makes us happy and content so long as we do not violate the rights of others. Happiness can be elusive but, if we do find it, and are causing no harm to others, then neither religion, government nor any other entity has the right to interfere. This is a basic fundemental right which applies to all mankind. I made a guestbook entry earlier and made a typo in my URL. The correct address is http://hearttalk.us. It is a brand new site and I'm lonely so please stop by.
Robert Vaughn <rbvaugh@netzero.com>
Jacksonville, Fl USA - Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 09:46:38 (PST)
Hi Lewis, I've been visiting this site for about six months now and I keep coming back for more. I think that you are doing a great job. I completly agree that both religion and politics have lost control to the lunatics. I've studied the Bible for years and the story that I see is completly different from the one which is preached from the pulpits of this country. I've began to write up some of the things I've found and I don't think that our "established" religion is going to want to hear it. It's too much to try to explain here but, if anyone wants to see a view which is unique, visit me at http://hearttalk.us Keep up the good work.
Robert Vaughn <rbvaugh@netzero.com>
Jacksonville, Fl USA - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 17:17:25 (PST)
I am fed up with the Sullivan County School System, and I am considering a run for the Sullivan County Board of Education. Why have we let the same people run it for 20 years? If you are interested in a fresh perspective, and want to see and support change in the "way things are done", how about drop me a line at chap@tfn.net. I would like to get a feel on what people think is needed in 3 areas:

1. Critical Services: What should the schools be providing, at a minimum?

2. Important Services: What would you like to see provided in addition to the critical services?

3. Improvements Needed: What improvements need to be made? Where? What do you want to see done to improve our community through the k-12 system?

My position is basically that the BOE has allowed its finances to go downhill because they were too chicken to put their case out to the public and to the county commission. They should all be injail for allowing a $600,000 "bad check" to be written to the County general Fund, that they then "paid for" with yet another "bad check". If you or I tried to do that we would be in jail for fraud.
j.c. <CHAP@TFN.NET>
kINGSPORT, TN USA - Friday, February 13, 2004 at 21:25:38 (PST)


I have been reading archived articles concerning the opening of call centers in the area, especially the Wise center run by Sykes Enterprises. I work at the Pikeville Sykes site and have just been notified that my job and the jobs of my co-workers will disappear April 9. it seems that is the approximate date that government incentives that brought the company here in the first place expire. A note of warning to employees at the Wise center; be prepared for an announcement when whatever incentives attracted Sykes to your location expire. The company, we now discover, has a long history of cutting and running when the trough of public funds runs dry.

DAvid Sykes <david_sykes@hotmail.com>
PIkeville, KY USA - Friday, February 13, 2004 at 18:19:42 (PST)


The sense that I have about Pantheism vs. Deism are not mutually exclusive. From your page, I understand that Pantheists believe that God is in all things. Also from your page, I understand that Deists believe God transcends all things. However, either I am misinterpereting you, or you are misunderstanding Pantheists. If I were to make an analogy using an artist and their craft, I would point to the fact that people say that the artist "poured himself into his art." People often say that the art is the artist. I hear Mozart in his music, I see DaVinci in his paintings. However, I also know that that is not all that they were. Mozart is not literally his music, nor DaVinci his paintings. But they are both in them. Language is inexact, so unless you feel the thing, it may be hard to properly express it. Is it possible that Pantheists see God in his creation even though they know that is not all he is? He transcends His creation, but His creation is also part of Him, a reflection of Him, like any other artist--he is in the universe as much as Mozart is in his music, yet he also trascends the universe much as Mozart was a separate entity from his craft. That is how I view Pantheism, however, if that is neither Pantheism nor Deism, I'd be curious to know what it is.

Response: Pantheism and Deism are not related regardless of those that attampt to merge the two.

Pantheism is a religion/philosophy with ancient roots, and has a direct relationship New Age religion and environmental religion. It's not polytheism, or belief in many gods, but a philosophy that underlies several older religious traditions. It emphasizes a wonder of nature, and a belief that humans are part of nature. This earth/nature centrism is pagaism. Its central theme is that the universe is divine and nature is a sacred part of the divine.

This runs counter to Deism that holds God the Creator is "quite other than the cosmos and entirely transcends it." Some believe God "went away" after creation, most didn't including myself. This is God the creator, or God the father of Christians and Jews. Deists see nature with its vast complex workings as a proof of God, not part of God in some fashion. God is outside Creation.

The old English Deist' believed as follows,

  1. Belief in the existence of a single supreme God
  2. Humanity's duty to revere God
  3. Linkage of worship with practical morality
  4. God will forgive us if we repent and abandon our sins
  5. Good works will be rewarded (and punishment for evil) both in life and after death.

We tend to stress rational thought and science as a way of discovering truth over blind revelation. Some will accept revelation if it meets the test of reason. We also place great emphasis on classic religious texts such as the Bible but in a historical or inspirational context. Deists can come from Christian or Jewish backgrounds (or even Muslum) which make it hard to tell us apart from Christians or Jews. We do reject the Holy Spirit and Jesus as Christ and hold Him as human. The more Christian from of Deism is Unitarianism (they still hold Jesus as Christ but stress the Gospels over Paul) but they have been undermined when transcentenalism (Eastern religion/spiritualism) under Ralph Waldo Emerson that invaded the faith in the 1840s. The Unitarian Universalists of today have no relation to Unitarian Christians such as John Adams or Deists such as Thomas Jefferson. Deism and Protestantism often combined to varying degrees in America. Deism was never a formal religion like Unitarianism and most attended Christian Churches. Deism proceed the European Enlightenment. Deism, Unitarianism, and Christianity all would oppose Romanticism which seems to embrace pantheism.

The bottom line is Deism has much more theologically and culturally with Protestant Christianity then it ever would with pantheism. See the links in the box below.


Kimber Davies
USA - Friday, February 13, 2004 at 17:23:11 (PST)
After reading what you said about democracy I quickly realized that the author of that piece has no clue about what democracy is. The alledged example of giving cigarettes to babies was absurd. In America democracy is used to protect the minority from the majority. Thats what the whole system of check and balances is about. That way if the majority of people want their babies to smoke cigarettes the Supreme Court could rule in what they see as the best interest of the people and rule that unconstitutional. You need to know what you are talking about before you write some illogical bullshit that might mislead people who are searching for true information. Democracy is not a plague to the world. Dumb ass people like you are the real problem.

Response: the article was never written by me (the webmaster) and was presented as an example of some the insanity of those frauds claiming to be Christian are preaching. Click here to read the artilce he is talking about.
Bob Green
Los Angeles , CA USA - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 19:30:34 (PST)







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